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HELP can i put hydraulic oil as engine oil ?

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:22 am
by HELPEPLZ
can i use hydraulic oil., as a replacement for engine oil ? .-- recommendations?

ANY one experienced??

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:50 am
by Jones'n4chrome
Why not just use engine oil?

Chuck

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:46 am
by HELPPLZ
long story, dont have any money, need to go far . the will to try....

and also 100 gallons of it standing on my land .... and no oil left in bus.


does it work to use hydraulic fluid instead of oil in a diesel engine ?

pros and cons ?

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:19 am
by Rudy
Hydraulic oil is NOT engine oil. My guess is that it would not work. You can, however use automatic transmission fluid in the power steering pump.

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:12 pm
by dburt
Trade some of the hydraulic oil for some good 15-40 weight engine oil. The hydraulic oil is not the right viscosity for the engine.

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:31 am
by splummer
Rudy wrote:Hydraulic oil is NOT engine oil. My guess is that it would not work. You can, however use automatic transmission fluid in the power steering pump.
your guess is 100% right, auto fliud for power steering ok but auto fluild enstead of brake fluild no o k

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:35 am
by splummer
HELPPLZ wrote:long story, dont have any money, need to go far . the will to try....

and also 100 gallons of it standing on my land .... and no oil left in bus.


does it work to use hydraulic fluid instead of oil in a diesel engine ?

pros and cons ?
the willto try wont get you far, plus no money for oil then no money for fuel now if it was a multi fuel you could mix hydro with some diesel fuel

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:24 am
by Rudy
HelpPlz, Splummer has some wise words. Please be prepared to, at least, reach your destination. It will be hell if you get stuck on your way. I am sending you some good vibes.

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:16 am
by splummer
i think the good vibes brought out a funny story,i will post it in the section for funny stories, and its almost on topic

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:04 pm
by Dualfuel
I gotta chime in here...
Hydraulic is about 10 weight oil. It will work in an engine. It will offer increased oil consumption through burning. Some hydraulic oil is non-detergent, which doesn't disperse the water in the oil.
The way to use the oil in the engine is to change the oil and add fresh hydraulic oil. Then watch the oil pressure guage. Establish a baseline pressure for fresh hydraulic oil. When the pressure tapers off slightly, that means the oil has broken down. Pull over and change the oil again. You'll be lucky if you get 250 miles between changes. Still that should get you to a place where you could trade for some "C" rated engine oil.
Here, I run 10W hydraulic oil in everything all winter.
If you run out of hydraulic oil, use used vegatable oil. Fryer oil will go a lot longer then hydraulic oil before it breaks down. Normally its free, so changing it often isn't really a monetary issue but one of convience.
DF

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:27 pm
by splummer
hhhmmm doesnt sound right df

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:08 am
by HElpPLZ
I gotta chime in here...
Hydraulic is about 10 weight oil. It will work in an engine. It will offer increased oil consumption through burning. Some hydraulic oil is non-detergent, which doesn't disperse the water in the oil.
The way to use the oil in the engine is to change the oil and add fresh hydraulic oil. Then watch the oil pressure guage. Establish a baseline pressure for fresh hydraulic oil. When the pressure tapers off slightly, that means the oil has broken down. Pull over and change the oil again. You'll be lucky if you get 250 miles between changes. Still that should get you to a place where you could trade for some "C" rated engine oil.
Here, I run 10W hydraulic oil in everything all winter.
If you run out of hydraulic oil, use used vegatable oil. Fryer oil will go a lot longer then hydraulic oil before it breaks down. Normally its free, so changing it often isn't really a monetary issue but one of convience.
DF
now this is what im talking about yeh!

i had a thought that if i do put hydraulic oil in the engine (wich still has about -1 mm left on the oil meter stick thingy) it would help me [as it burns out quickly?] clean out whatever junk and leftovers are still in the engine ... so that I when I can afford it drain the whole engine and replace with funky new freeesh 15 - 40

stay with me on this

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:15 am
by HELPPLZ
HElpPLZ wrote:
I gotta chime in here...
Hydraulic is about 10 weight oil. It will work in an engine. It will offer increased oil consumption through burning. Some hydraulic oil is non-detergent, which doesn't disperse the water in the oil.
The way to use the oil in the engine is to change the oil and add fresh hydraulic oil. Then watch the oil pressure guage. Establish a baseline pressure for fresh hydraulic oil. When the pressure tapers off slightly, that means the oil has broken down. Pull over and change the oil again. You'll be lucky if you get 250 miles between changes. Still that should get you to a place where you could trade for some "C" rated engine oil.
Here, I run 10W hydraulic oil in everything all winter.
If you run out of hydraulic oil, use used vegatable oil. Fryer oil will go a lot longer then hydraulic oil before it breaks down. Normally its free, so changing it often isn't really a monetary issue but one of convience.
DF
now this is what im talking about yeh!

i had a thought that if i do put hydraulic oil in the engine (wich still has about -1 mm left on the oil meter stick thingy) it would help me [as it burns out quickly?] clean out whatever junk and leftovers are still in the engine ... so that I when I can afford it drain the whole engine and replace with funky new freeesh 15 - 40

stay with me on this



I smelled the old hydralic fluid and as i did a voice in my head said *This i would like to put in my engine...*

help! who should i listen to!? You!? the voice in my head or maybe it's the evil hydraulic fluid talking who just want's to get in to my engine to RULE IT ALL !*

/unquote

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:33 am
by Stealth Camper
It will work - at least temporarily. I wouldn't use a mineral oil based hydraulic fluid.

About the only thing missing would be the detergent additives and if it is for short term, who cares?

The other way around, I would recommend avoiding - engine oil in hydraulic system. The detergents - foam and cavitation will occur.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:15 am
by splummer
HELPPLZ wrote:
HElpPLZ wrote:
I gotta chime in here...
Hydraulic is about 10 weight oil. It will work in an engine. It will offer increased oil consumption through burning. Some hydraulic oil is non-detergent, which doesn't disperse the water in the oil.
The way to use the oil in the engine is to change the oil and add fresh hydraulic oil. Then watch the oil pressure guage. Establish a baseline pressure for fresh hydraulic oil. When the pressure tapers off slightly, that means the oil has broken down. Pull over and change the oil again. You'll be lucky if you get 250 miles between changes. Still that should get you to a place where you could trade for some "C" rated engine oil.
Here, I run 10W hydraulic oil in everything all winter.
If you run out of hydraulic oil, use used vegatable oil. Fryer oil will go a lot longer then hydraulic oil before it breaks down. Normally its free, so changing it often isn't really a monetary issue but one of convience.
DF
now this is what im talking about yeh!

i had a thought that if i do put hydraulic oil in the engine (wich still has about -1 mm left on the oil meter stick thingy) it would help me [as it burns out quickly?] clean out whatever junk and leftovers are still in the engine ... so that I when I can afford it drain the whole engine and replace with funky new freeesh 15 - 40

stay with me on this



I smelled the old hydralic fluid and as i did a voice in my head said *This i would like to put in my engine...*

help! who should i listen to!? You!? the voice in my head or maybe it's the evil hydraulic fluid talking who just want's to get in to my engine to RULE IT ALL !*

/unquote


now listen to my voice, if you value your engine dont do it