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Just a little over the top

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Hi Gang

For $400,000.00 you can get a half done rig. It's a little over the top for me but hey, we all like what we like. Here is the ebay item# 170254804884 I would say if you want it you better bid before someone snaps it up. It even has a elevator and a third floor deck. As the old saying goes, a mans rolling home is his castle. Heres a few pics.

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Im sorry, I wouldn't pay a penny over $350,000.00 without solar

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With what appears to be a tag axle behind the fornt axle, I would imagine that getting this beast arond a curve would be closer to a nightmare than a dream.

Looks like another episode of "Pimp my Setra" :roll:
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Hi Phil

I think all 4 front wheels turn on this thing. I was just thinking that with enough money to throw away you could go pretty far out there :roll:
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Any idea what kind of bus that was when it started out from the factory?
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Mark, If I had to hazard a guess I would say this is a modified Neoplan "Skyliner" along the lines of a model 122/3.

Take a look at http://www.busexplorer.com/JapanBus/Ima ... plan-1.jpg

I strongly suspect the front tag axle is homebrew; I can't find anything like it from any factory model.

As an aside, Neoplan used the same body engineering and philosophy as Setra. Neoplan also has/had a factory here in Colorado.
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Im pretty sure your right Phil and I also think that both front axels turn I’ve also seen this bus as a 60 footer with a joint about 2/3 back. It’s quite the rig.
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Ok folks

I fired off a email to the guys that built this rig and this is what I got back. Also I have a bunch of inside pics you guys want to see them.

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Hello

Your rig is about $395,000.00 over my budget but what a great rig. I was wondering, What is the base bus frame that you guys started with? And how long have you been working on to get it to where it is now? My email is busdweller56@hotmail.com

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we built our own frame to be able to build in our own 6 slide outsit has taken 5 years to get to this point.it was a corperate decision to stop the project there.this way anyone could create there own floorplan.thanks taz
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Post by Mark R. Obtinario »

I still wonder what they used for the base.

Making something like that out of whole cloth would be prohibitively expensive and virtually impossible to ever get licensed to drive on public streets.

I would agree that it has some of the earmarks of the Neoplan -liner series of buses. Specifically, it has the dual front steer axles and European wheel hub design the Spaceliner 102-pax buses had that were used by NASA. The keep coming up for sale occasionally.

If you started with one of those buses and updated from the 8V-92 to the Series 60 I think you would be getting close to what they have.

My question to them is on which roads did they plan to use that bus?

With the double deck and multiple slides the bus is not only going to have to be max height, max width, max length, and be most probably max weight as well.

I can't imagine ever driving that rig through twisting back roads. And backing for miles because you can't find a turn around due to the fact you came across a bridge or low overhead the rig could not pass is not my idea of fun.

I am thinking they are dreaming if they think they will ever get anything close to the price they want.
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Well, I used to tell people when they would see my Crown that it was a good thing that they didn't make them any bigger, or I'd probably have one, I guess that's not true any more. (actually, biggest of all is this)

Let's put this thing into perspective...

I've toured the Marathon Coach conversion factory in Coburg, OR a few times, gathering ideas for the Crown (actually, mostly getting ideas on what I was NOT going to do), and I have toured the interior of a couple of coaches that were built by another manufacturer in a similar style to the "double decker" design that this bus uses. The driver's seat was almost on the pavement, that there was a stand-up observation deck above it. It is possible to double-deck and still be within the 14-foot limit that many (if not most) freight trucks observe and successfully negotiate the nation's major highways.

The "twin steer" front axle design is an accepted configuration all over the world, many transit and distance buses in Australia use this setup for passenger comfort on rough roads. It's also not uncommon on very heavy vehicles (cranes, etc) in this country. Two axles spread the weight, making weight limits moot. RV's, even as big as this, weigh nearly nothing compared to a trailer filled with long-haul freight.

The fact that this was a "corporate" project means that someone (investors, most likely) thought that there was a market for the largest possible coach. The buyer of such a coach would have the financial resources to hire a driver and pre-plan and map routes that would not offer restrictions on height, width, weight, or length. This is not a small RV that one would use to explore the backroads of quaint villages across the US. The double deckers I toured actually had separate living quarters for not one, but two drivers, so that the bus need never be idle, and the owners wouldn't have to interact with the "hired help" if they so desired.

As to the asking price, a bare-shell Prevost coach that Marathon uses for their conversions costs almost exactly what this coach is being offered at. Of course, a Prevost comes with a damn fine warranty, and loads of nation-wide support, but still, considering the amount of work accomplished on it, the asking price is not outrageous.

Aesthetics? I don't think that any of us would be interested in it even if we could afford it. Over-the-top. Absolutely! Even with all the slide-outs, I'd think that the low overheads of the interior would be a lot like living in a cave. The design and placement of the windows make me think of Disneyland "house-of-the-future-designed-by-Monsanto", and I seem to remember that the listing mentions that four of the windows actually are operable.

When the slide-outs are in, I'd think it would be like a maze inside. I'd rather be trapped in a Subaru on a cross-county drive!

Still, someone with too much money will probably buy it, if not through eBay, and have it fitted out and finished. It would be a rest-of-your-life project for any of us. Hell, it'll take me the rest of my life to put panelling and a kitchen in my Crown.

Oh, and Marathon Coaches do have a single solar panel installed. It's purpose? To keep the starting battery for the four-cylinder turbo diesel generator charged!
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Hey Sharkey!

I've seen 4 wheel and 6 wheel steering on cranes. If this is a one-off frame, I wouldn't be surprised if that's where the hardware was lifted from. I'd love to see one of those NASA busses.

Dennis, the comment about being "$395,000 over my budget" was classic!

Every year there's an RV show in Denver and there's a number of Prevost and Freightliner rigs for umpteen zillion dollars. The sliders don't interfere too badly with the interior, but I stll can't wrap my head around a double decker. It reminds me of the joke where the blond bowing team on the top deck is scared out of their wits because they didn't have a driver like the team below them. As for going across country in a Subaru; Been there, done that :lol: . '78 wagon works a lot better on a trip than a '78 Brat.
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This i the ebay like. It ended but the pics are still up

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 04884&rd=1
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It's cool but thats one uglysonnabitch though :roll:
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The guy fired me over this email. Go figure :shock:

the bus did not sell on ebay.if you know anyone who may be interested in the bus please have them call me at 859-221-4556. my name is taz
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I smell a fat commission coming your way Dennis! :D

I get a piece of the action if you sell it through the forum Buy/Sell/Trade..!!
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I only know broke people. I dont know how he thinks he will ever sell that thing, no gable roof, not one shingle, not even a potbelly stove. Who would buy that thing. :?
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